Choline Bitartrate / Cream of Tartar

The following info was supplied by John Kender 

This is an over-the-counter supplement available in pharmacies and health food stores. It often comes in jars labeled simply "choline". But it is important to read the fine print and make sure it says "choline bitartrate", since it is  the bitartrate that appears to do the job, not the choline itself, and some of the choline supplements are made from other choline compounds. Sometimes you
can get it in a "choline inositol" combination. It comes as tablets of various sizes; 250mg and 650mg appear to be the popular ones. People have reported that one 250mg tablet in the morning and another at night appear to moderate the pulling urges, whether or not they are doing anything else with respect to TTM.
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It is important to check with your doctor if you are thinking of taking any supplement, especially if you have any other medical condition or are taking any other medication. Even OTC supplements can cause side effects, or worse. In particular, excessive choline (from even "natural" sources like foods) may cause bad reactions in people who have bipolar disorder. I haven't found any
warnings about tartrates, bitartrates, or tartaric acid, which are found in grapes and wine, but it would be good to check with your doctor first, since they are acidic and too much (however much that is) may affect your digestion.

If you are wary of supplements, you can get approximately the same effect by using small amounts of cream of tartar, which is potassium bitartrate. Taking 1/4 teaspoon of cream of tartar has approximately the same amount of bitartrate as four 250mg of choline bitartrate, so this is certainly enough. To make it palatable, dissolve it in a cup of water and add 1/2 to 1 teaspoon
of fructose; it ends up tasting like weak grape Kool-Aid (which originally was made with tartartic acid, anyway).

Once again: I am not a doctor. This is not medical advice. This only reports what I have done to myself and what other TTMers have reported that they have done to themselves. (You shouldn't trust anything you find on the internet, anyway.) It is importatnt that you check with your doctor before doing anything unusual to your body or to those of your children. Follow the directions on the label of anything you take, even if it is sold freely and without a prescription. In general, be careful out there, and let the rest of
us know how things turn out.

John

* "Cream of tartar sauce" recipe: 
1/8 teaspoon cream of tartar
1/2 teaspoon (one packet) fructose
1 cup of water
Starts to work in about 3 hours, full effect by 8 hours.

 

Here's some email from the archives that talk about choline bitartrate.  John

Report 1:

Some people have gotten relief from pulling by taking inositol, but they have
to take a larger amount than is present in the combination pill. Some people
don't get any relief from inositol at all, even taking a whole lot (and it is
expensive!). On the other hand, many people have gotten relief from various
forms of bitartrates: red wine has it, cream of tartar has it, and there are
other salts of bitartrate besides choline that appear to work, too. The
choline is not special, just cheaply available. Further, relatives of
bitartrate (like gluconate and other members of the alpha hydroxy acid family)
also seem to work.

So: the magic seems to be more in the bitartrate than in anything else. A
very cheap way to see if it worth taking is to mix up a sort of mock Kool-Aid
drink: 1/8 teaspoon cream of tartar, one packet fructose, 1 cup of water.
This gives about the same amount of bitartrate as about two of the standard
inositol/choline pills, and if you are going to feel any effect it should hit
in about three hours from drinking it.

Report 2:

In answer to Tammy and Janegrrl's questions about choline bitartrate:

This is an over-the-counter supplement available in pharmacies and health food
stores. It often comes in jars labeled simply "choline". But it is important
to read the fine print and make sure it says "choline bitartrate", since it is
the bitartrate that appears to do the job, not the choline itself, and some of
the choline supplements are made from other choline compounds. Sometimes you
can get it in a "choline inositol" combination. It comes as tablets of
various sizes; 250mg and 650mg appear to be the popular ones. People have
reported that one 250mg tablet in the morning and another at night appear to
moderate the pulling urges, whether or not they are doing anything else with
respect to TTM.

It is important to check with your doctor if you are thinking of taking any
supplement, especially if you have any other medical condition or are taking
any other medication. Even OTC supplements can cause side effects, or worse.
In particular, excessive choline (from even "natural" sources like foods) may
cause bad reactions in people who have bipolar disorder. I haven't found any
warnings about tartrates, bitartrates, or tartaric acid, which are found in
grapes and wine, but it would be good to check with your doctor first, since
they are acidic and too much (however much that is) may affect your digestion.

Once again: I am not a doctor. This is not medical advice. This only reports
what I have done to myself and what other TTMers have reported that they have
done to themselves. (You shouldn't trust anything you find on the internet,
anyway.) It is importatnt that you check with your doctor before doing
anything unusual to your body or to those of your children. Follow the
directions on the label of anything you take, even if it is sold freely and
without a prescription. In general, be careful out there, and let the rest of
us know how things turn out.

Report 3:

Craam of tartar is potassium bitartrate, which is different from choline
bitartrate. But it is the bitartrate that seems to be helpful for TTM. Very
roughly, 1/4 teaspoon of cream of tartar has the same amount of bitartrate as
a 750ml bottle of wine, or about eight of the 250 mg. tablets of choline
bitartrate, or about three of the 650 mg. tablets of choline bitartrate. So,
1/4 teaspoon is really overkill, and 1/8 teaspoon should be more than enough.

The recipe I have used is: 1/8 teaspoon C of T, 1 packet (about 1/2 teaspoon)
fructose, 1 cup water. It is probably a good dea to take half of it in the
morning and half at night. Supplements and/or dry red wine are a lot easier,
however.

Disclaimer time: this is what I do to myself. What you do to your self is up
to you and your doctor, not me. 


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